What Hillary Really Wishes She Could Say

There is one thing Hillary could say that would remove all need for nuance in her campaign communications. If she could say this, she could say practically anything she wanted about Barrack Obama and she would be allowed such frankness simply out of respect. She could say virtually anything about her policy ideals and we would be given to respect them almost unconditionally. The Tuzla affair would have been a fleeting blip, merely a forgivably goofy gaffe, and we might even be tempted to praise her association with Rupert Murdoch. At this point in the democratic campaign we would all be looking forward to a Denver convention where there would be no talk of unity because, pretty much from the start, the party would already have unified around its candidate, and there would have been no Clinton-Obama divisions in the first place. In fact, Hillary Clinton could have ended this campaign in Iowa.

If she could only say what she now wishes she had said in Iowa and in each state throughout the campaign. If she had only said this:

"I just want to thank all of you who stood with me and others in our party in opposition to our president's misguided, short-sighted, and politically expedient campaign to create conflict in this world where no conflict was necessary. The minority of senators who actually took the time to investigate the National Intelligence Estimate were convinced that there were serious flaws in the administration's rationale, and given that the president has in most other ways shown himself to be untrustworthy, we simply felt that there was no way we could give the president our approval until those flaws were publicly addressed and answered to. Of course, as you will remember, there was great political pressure to give the president our approval and the benefit of the doubt. The president's approval ratings were at an all-time high, and the 24 of us who voted "no" in the senate did so despite polls that showed over 80% of the American public was against us at the time. But we felt that this vote was a matter too important to trade for cheap political gain, and in our hearts, and I know in my conscience, the moral choice was crystal clear. I voted NO to the Authorization for Use of Military Force because of my commitment to world peace and to the prescious lives of those who defend our liberties. And because of this commitment which I made public on October 10, 2002, you know that I can be trusted, more than any candidate remaining in this race, to bring our troops home in a timely manner, to provide our veteran service men and women with the best possible medical care, and to restore peace in the Middle East."

Well, I guess that about covers it, doesn't it? I'm convinced if she would have said this back in January we'd all be talking about Obama's chances in 2016, or whether he or Edwards or Richardson (probably Richardson) would make the best VP choice. But, like a lot of us have already discovered in our own personal endeavors, life can be cruel sometimes.



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I don't hold it against her as much (none / 0)

as some people. But it does go to show that choices have consequences.


by 79blondini on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:33:22 PM EST

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Obama only made a speech. He funded the war as did Hillary. This proves that he is only words. Funding the war in order to provide better equipment and training for our troops means he approved of the war. That's why I don't believe he really opposed the war. It was politically convenient for him to oppose the war when he did.

He is an empty suite. Just like Bush.

Rise Hillary Rise!


Welcome to a landslide WITH white working class, latinos, women and holding on sweeties!!!
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:44:12 PM EST
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Empty suit!

Rise Hillary Rise!


Welcome to a landslide WITH white working class, latinos, women and holding on sweeties!!!
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:46:18 PM EST
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Being a Senator is a very busy job.  

She regrets that vote and has said so.

Hillary will bring the troops home.


by HillsMyGirl on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:40:05 PM EST

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Oh, she regrets it all right. But I defy you to link to any report saying she made the wrong vote.


by Joe Beese on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:43:26 PM EST
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She stated that it was a mistake in one of the last couple of debates - OH, I believe.


by colebiancardi on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:49:33 PM EST
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To my knowledge this is as close as she ever got:


"Obviously, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn't have been a vote," she said in her usual refrain before adding, "and I certainly wouldn't have voted that way."

Jake Tapper - Hillary Clinton Says She Wouldn't Have Voted For Iraq War ABC 18 December 2007

But with that careful parsing it really didn't change the perception her steadfast refusal to recant had created throughout the campaign up to that time not was it an admission of a mistake or fault.  Too little, too late.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:56:34 PM EST
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RUSSERT: Before you go, each of you have talked about your careers in public service. Looking back through them, is there any words or vote that you'd like to take back?

Senator Clinton?

CLINTON: Well, obviously, I've said many times that, although my vote on the 2002 authorization regarding Iraq was a sincere vote, I would not have voted that way again

snipping

RUSSERT: But to be clear, you'd like to have your vote back?

CLINTON: Absolutely. I've said that many times.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/15604/


by colebiancardi on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:59:55 PM EST
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I stand corrected, I was just in the middle of posting almost those exact snippets but you beat me to it.  But it really amounts to the same, doesn't it, when qualified in this way?


CLINTON: Well, obviously, I've said many times that, although my vote on the 2002 authorization regarding Iraq was a sincere vote, I would not have voted that way again.

I would certainly, as president, never have taken us to war in Iraq. And I regret deeply that President Bush waged a preemptive war, which I warned against and said I disagreed with.

Democratic Debate Transcript, Cleveland, Ohio Council on Foreign Relations 26 Feb 08

But you are certainly correct.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon May 26, 2008 at 08:05:04 PM EST
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and if you read or listened to her senate speech in 2002, you would see she said exactly that in her speech.

My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.

Over eleven years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community. Time and time again he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and to the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot. I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections.

And finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year's terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.


http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_ 101002.html


by colebiancardi on Mon May 26, 2008 at 08:13:20 PM EST
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I don't disagree, but that's my point, really, that's as close as she came to disowning her vote but it didn't seem to work, at least in the perception of those who had interpreted from her position that, as John Judis said, 'on an issue as central as the war, she was willing to put politics before principle.'

I actually quoted the December comment, in all fairness, in response to the poster above who challenged anyone to 'link to any report saying she made the wrong vote.'  I think you and I would agree that we both gave her own words a fair hearing in that regard.  But I maintain that these quotes both fall short of what she needed to do if one accepts the diarist's thesis that the AUMF vote was a critical problem for her in 2007 when issues, rather than character, were in the forefront of the campaign.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon May 26, 2008 at 08:30:14 PM EST
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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she is not sorry she voted for a resolution authorizing President Bush to take military action in Iraq despite the recent problems there but she does regret "the way the president used the authority." "Mrs. Clinton said her 2002 vote was intended to increase pressure on Iraq to accept continued weapons inspections, not to go to war. Referring to herself and other Democratic candidates, she added, "we've each said in our own way that we regret the way President Bush used that authority" - an answer that fuzzed over Mrs. Clinton's refusal to call her 2002 vote a mistake, as Mr. Edwards has and as some Democratic primary voters pressed her to admit when she started running last winter." So in other words.. she doesn't regret doing it, but regrets the outcome/reaction.. Sounds familar and relevant to recent non-stories?
by standd on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:50:02 PM EST
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Senatorin' is hard work!


by deminva on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:52:41 PM EST
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I agree, and others share this view, that the AUMF vote was the Achilles' heel of her candidacy:


During the campaign's first year--before the Iowa caucus in January--the principal, and perhaps only, way that her opponents (particularly Obama) could undercut her candidacy was through criticizing her support of the resolution authorizing the Bush administration to use force against Iraq.

At the time, the issue of the war overshadowed all other concerns. This was especially true among the party activists who would staff the campaigns and go to the caucuses, and among the Internet donors who would, as it turned out, fund Obama's effort. John Edwards, who had actually been a member in absentia of the Intelligence Committee and had acted far more irresponsibly than Clinton, cut off criticism of himself by apologizing for his vote in favor of the resolution. But Clinton--looking ahead, perhaps, to the general election--refused to apologize. That reinforced an impression that, on an issue as central as the war, she was willing to put politics before principle, and, in so doing, she sustained Obama's campaign at a time when he was making little headway in national polls.

John B Judis - The Autopsy Report TNR 21 May 08

The Kyl/Lieberman vote reinforced this perception and undercut her valiant attempt to put this issue behind her without formally disowning it.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:43:28 PM EST

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As David Frye said of Viet Nam,

"This war is very unfair to the candidates."


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:47:25 PM EST

Seriously, great diary (none / 0)

Hillary made a mistake and her real fault has been blaming Bush for tricking her. Edwards apologized for his vote. I have yet to hear or read Hillary do the same.


Welcome to a landslide WITH white working class, latinos, women and holding on sweeties!!!
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:47:39 PM EST

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she stated that in the Ohio debate as the mistake she wishes she could have back

http://www.cfr.org/publication/15604/


by colebiancardi on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:52:40 PM EST
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To be honest, she can't....

For one of two reasons.... if she were to, it would open a "fickle woman" meme

Or, and more likely,

She doesn't regret it... Given her stance on Kyl-Lieberman and the standing "o" over the "surge is working" line, I think she is more hawkish than she is playing right now...


McCain/Palin... even scarier than Bush/Cheney... and that's saying something!
by JenKinFLA on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:55:24 PM EST
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Can't get much more hawkish than obliterate Iran.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:14:02 PM EST
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The problem is as much the fact that she voted for it - since many other Dems did as well - but the way she has tried to justify her vote.


by highgrade on Mon May 26, 2008 at 07:53:38 PM EST

She won't apologize for her vote. (none / 0)

She doesn't think she made a mistake and neither do I.  She has said that given what she knew at the time, her judgment was sound.  She has refused to pander and I respect her for it.

She even said during one debate that she would not apologize for the vote and said that voters who were looking for an apology and would only voter for her if she did could vote for someone else.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Mon May 26, 2008 at 09:10:38 PM EST

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And we did just that.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Mon May 26, 2008 at 10:14:42 PM EST
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